Comments on: Wouldn’t it be cool? http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2009/11/08/wouldnt-it-be-cool/ A blog by a man who likes to play video games Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:08:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.2 By: Qieth http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2009/11/08/wouldnt-it-be-cool/#comment-221 Qieth Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:22:09 +0000 http://qieths-quips.com/?p=76#comment-221 Closing comments on this, because there is just so much spam going into this single thread. Closing comments on this, because there is just so much spam going into this single thread.

]]> By: Qieth http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2009/11/08/wouldnt-it-be-cool/#comment-72 Qieth Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:26:48 +0000 http://qieths-quips.com/?p=76#comment-72 You really have to consider if you are over complicating the matters. Find me one single spec that has the same confusing elements in its core. With that, i think you are making WoW very hard to play for new people, and i shutter to think about the length of the tooltip :P You really have to consider if you are over complicating the matters. Find me one single spec that has the same confusing elements in its core. With that, i think you are making WoW very hard to play for new people, and i shutter to think about the length of the tooltip :P

]]> By: Dendron http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2009/11/08/wouldnt-it-be-cool/#comment-70 Dendron Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:59:46 +0000 http://qieths-quips.com/?p=76#comment-70 I actually decided that I personally really liek the idea and am gonna work on it some more and see if we can shwo it to blizz. I realyl see them enjoying it because it promtoes the idea of "balance" and that might make them actually imply it. So I decided to come up with the name of the Seed: Seed of Cenarius Solar Detonate : Photosynthesis Lunar Detonate : Respiration :) thoughts! I actually decided that I personally really liek the idea and am gonna work on it some more and see if we can shwo it to blizz. I realyl see them enjoying it because it promtoes the idea of “balance” and that might make them actually imply it.

So I decided to come up with the name of the Seed:

Seed of Cenarius
Solar Detonate : Photosynthesis
Lunar Detonate : Respiration

:) thoughts!

]]> By: Dendron http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2009/11/08/wouldnt-it-be-cool/#comment-69 Dendron Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:43:46 +0000 http://qieths-quips.com/?p=76#comment-69 but useless crit* I really wish i could edit. Sorry :P I'm super tired but useless crit* I really wish i could edit. Sorry :P I’m super tired

]]> By: Dendron http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2009/11/08/wouldnt-it-be-cool/#comment-68 Dendron Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:43:25 +0000 http://qieths-quips.com/?p=76#comment-68 What I meant to say when I said "So he detonates it and his starfires cast faster without losing crit." is, instead of being 130% Crit chance (30% wasted) you an gain haste and be at 100% Crit chance. which in the end isn't a loss at all :) so yeah.. you lose crit.. but not useless crit What I meant to say when I said “So he detonates it and his starfires cast faster without losing crit.” is, instead of being 130% Crit chance (30% wasted) you an gain haste and be at 100% Crit chance. which in the end isn’t a loss at all :) so yeah.. you lose crit.. but not useless crit

]]> By: Dendron http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2009/11/08/wouldnt-it-be-cool/#comment-67 Dendron Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:41:06 +0000 http://qieths-quips.com/?p=76#comment-67 The reason I came up with the 2nd ability was simply to let us have more room for haste or crit. Imagine with ICC we are capped on hit, haste on wrath, crit on starfire. There is no other stat for us to get :( (but of course you know this already with your first post in the blog :P). So i came up with it to maybe find a small solution for this. Say someone is overcapped on haste only. Now he knows that if he detonates the debuff (let's call the debuff "seed") at 4 stacks his wrath would be right at the cap. So he lets 4 Seed debuffs add up on the boss. Then he detonates it and boum. His wrath cast time is the same but his crit increased. In the other situation he is overcapped on crit with starfire. Say the boomkin knows that even if he detonates after 7 debuffs he will be at 100% crit with Starfire during an eclipse. So he detonates it and his starfires cast faster without losing crit. :) The reason I came up with the 2nd ability was simply to let us have more room for haste or crit. Imagine with ICC we are capped on hit, haste on wrath, crit on starfire. There is no other stat for us to get :( (but of course you know this already with your first post in the blog :P ). So i came up with it to maybe find a small solution for this.

Say someone is overcapped on haste only. Now he knows that if he detonates the debuff (let’s call the debuff “seed”) at 4 stacks his wrath would be right at the cap. So he lets 4 Seed debuffs add up on the boss. Then he detonates it and boum. His wrath cast time is the same but his crit increased.

In the other situation he is overcapped on crit with starfire. Say the boomkin knows that even if he detonates after 7 debuffs he will be at 100% crit with Starfire during an eclipse. So he detonates it and his starfires cast faster without losing crit.

:)

]]> By: Qieth http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2009/11/08/wouldnt-it-be-cool/#comment-65 Qieth Sat, 28 Nov 2009 04:05:28 +0000 http://qieths-quips.com/?p=76#comment-65 Blessed By Elune could be fun, but its sort of an odd mechanic. A disc priest could be popping Power Infusion, a blood DK could be using hysteria - they could both still be DPS'ing. While we are channeling, our damage would go to zero. Imagine two DPS'ers doing 8k DPS - one is taken out because he has to channel a buff to the other, and increase his damage - the actual buff would only be +50% damage to the one person. Meanwhile, our dots run off, aswell as earth and moon and such. I don't think that would work out too well :P If you had less crit but more haste on starfire, it would probably even out each other pretty well. Same goes for wrath - if you do 10% more damage, but cast 10% slower, it would result in the excact same amount of damage, or very close to it. It doesn't really fix any problems, it just makes stuff more complicated :P With the stacking debuff, it becomes a problem if the debuff explodes and you are are not ready to switch to the other. Lets say you have to do five starfires - what if there is still 5 seconds left on eclipse, and (after 3.3) you have to wait a few more seconds to proc solar eclipse? There is a lot of waste in that buff. Most of the time it would be pretty difficult to get it the right time, and that just makes us even more dependant on RNG. Keep at it - ideas sharpens the mind ;) Blessed By Elune could be fun, but its sort of an odd mechanic. A disc priest could be popping Power Infusion, a blood DK could be using hysteria – they could both still be DPS’ing. While we are channeling, our damage would go to zero. Imagine two DPS’ers doing 8k DPS – one is taken out because he has to channel a buff to the other, and increase his damage – the actual buff would only be +50% damage to the one person. Meanwhile, our dots run off, aswell as earth and moon and such. I don’t think that would work out too well :P

If you had less crit but more haste on starfire, it would probably even out each other pretty well. Same goes for wrath – if you do 10% more damage, but cast 10% slower, it would result in the excact same amount of damage, or very close to it. It doesn’t really fix any problems, it just makes stuff more complicated :P

With the stacking debuff, it becomes a problem if the debuff explodes and you are are not ready to switch to the other. Lets say you have to do five starfires – what if there is still 5 seconds left on eclipse, and (after 3.3) you have to wait a few more seconds to proc solar eclipse? There is a lot of waste in that buff. Most of the time it would be pretty difficult to get it the right time, and that just makes us even more dependant on RNG.

Keep at it – ideas sharpens the mind ;)

]]> By: Dendron http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2009/11/08/wouldnt-it-be-cool/#comment-63 Dendron Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:12:04 +0000 http://qieths-quips.com/?p=76#comment-63 Talent (find a name for it yourself :P) This idea changes in my head every second.. So i'll just go with every small detail and someone smarter then me can decide what would be best (hint: that'd be you Q) When you cast wrath you get a debuff that decreases the haste on your wrath but it increases the crit on it. Same with Starfire but vice versa. This of course is a copy of arcane barrage in a way.. It's made to compliment Eclipse. Or everytime you cast wrath or eclipse you apply a stacking debuff on the boss that increases your personal damage on him. Once you reach 10 stacks the debuff explodes. The result of the explosion can be 2 different effects: If it was caused by Starfire, it increases the crit % of your wrath. If it was cause by wrath it increases the haste % of Starfire. My hope here is to slightly counter Eclipse but it would take a genius to make it work perfectly. You'd have to make sure your Wrath or Starfire will proc Eclipse and boom huge dps boost! Another solution is to simply have an ability called "detonate" off the GCD and cast it right as you wrath or starfire to make sure you get the proper buff. I actually decided i like this last one best..so I won't post the rest! I need a name for it but I was thinking about it and I remember Malfurion in War of the Ancients using various seeds on demons and some of them explode.. This could be used to find a name (yes I'm a lore freak) Talent (find a name for it yourself :P ) This idea changes in my head every second.. So i’ll just go with every small detail and someone smarter then me can decide what would be best (hint: that’d be you Q)

When you cast wrath you get a debuff that decreases the haste on your wrath but it increases the crit on it. Same with Starfire but vice versa. This of course is a copy of arcane barrage in a way.. It’s made to compliment Eclipse.

Or everytime you cast wrath or eclipse you apply a stacking debuff on the boss that increases your personal damage on him. Once you reach 10 stacks the debuff explodes. The result of the explosion can be 2 different effects: If it was caused by Starfire, it increases the crit % of your wrath. If it was cause by wrath it increases the haste % of Starfire.

My hope here is to slightly counter Eclipse but it would take a genius to make it work perfectly. You’d have to make sure your Wrath or Starfire will proc Eclipse and boom huge dps boost! Another solution is to simply have an ability called “detonate” off the GCD and cast it right as you wrath or starfire to make sure you get the proper buff.

I actually decided i like this last one best..so I won’t post the rest! I need a name for it but I was thinking about it and I remember Malfurion in War of the Ancients using various seeds on demons and some of them explode.. This could be used to find a name (yes I’m a lore freak)

]]> By: Dendron http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2009/11/08/wouldnt-it-be-cool/#comment-62 Dendron Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:01:12 +0000 http://qieths-quips.com/?p=76#comment-62 KK I came up with 2 ideas that aren't too bright but I just feel like putting them up for shits and giggles. Blessed by Elune: Channel a blessing of Elune towards a friendly target and increases damage done with spells by 150%. Lasts X seconds. I would see this as a filler during bloodlust or whatever... Obviously the issue here is it doesn't increase our personal dps.. but if it's cast on the right person it will definitely increase the raids dps and to me that's what matters. The other idea doesn't fit in 1 comment so I'll reply to that too. Please don't hate me :P KK I came up with 2 ideas that aren’t too bright but I just feel like putting them up for shits and giggles.

Blessed by Elune: Channel a blessing of Elune towards a friendly target and increases damage done with spells by 150%. Lasts X seconds.

I would see this as a filler during bloodlust or whatever… Obviously the issue here is it doesn’t increase our personal dps.. but if it’s cast on the right person it will definitely increase the raids dps and to me that’s what matters.

The other idea doesn’t fit in 1 comment so I’ll reply to that too. Please don’t hate me :P

]]> By: Qieth http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2009/11/08/wouldnt-it-be-cool/#comment-18 Qieth Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:56:41 +0000 http://qieths-quips.com/?p=76#comment-18 Making it refresh dots takes focus away from the main purpose. I think it would be unreasonable to have a spell that does "x damage channeled over y seconds and refreshes your dots on the target". This would mean that because it has this utility, it would lose utility somewhere else. And then imagine if dots fell off before you used Hadoken, then it would lose half of its function. Rather that it just did damage, and that it was bumped a bit because the spell doesn't have a secondary effect. Dots are about 15% of our damage, so if they fall off, i wont lie sleepless at night. I can refresh them after Hadoken if need be. Making it refresh dots takes focus away from the main purpose. I think it would be unreasonable to have a spell that does “x damage channeled over y seconds and refreshes your dots on the target”. This would mean that because it has this utility, it would lose utility somewhere else. And then imagine if dots fell off before you used Hadoken, then it would lose half of its function. Rather that it just did damage, and that it was bumped a bit because the spell doesn’t have a secondary effect.

Dots are about 15% of our damage, so if they fall off, i wont lie sleepless at night. I can refresh them after Hadoken if need be.

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