I must note though, that this post is more or less invalid now that 4.0 comes out. At the very least, I need to do a complete rewrite

My guild says that I should settle for heroic nibelung, but I disagree. I wanted heroic Dying Light for the sockets, sp + haste – but they gave it to a priest instead. =(

at this point im not sure what im going to do, but I just don’t understand why its not listed here as an option?

Am i fine with the current position of moonkins? Sure. Would i like a buff? Naturally. Would i accept if we don’t get that? Absolutely. I see that, as we progress, there is a certain gap because of our scaling, which could change my stance to “acceptable”. Blizzard has taken steps to minimize that, however, by giving us a little buff.

But lets say that when everybody is in BIS gear, the high damage dealers could be doing 12k DPS, and moonkins could be doing 10k. I would be perfectly fine with that damage difference, or at least, it wouldn’t bother me much – it wouldn’t make people stop bringing moonkins to raids. I would still consider it comparable, even with a 2k DPS difference at that point.

I realise that me being an active person may have an impact on other players views on our class. They can either decide if they disagree with me, or if they are as fine with the situation as I am. I dont think we will ever be in a position where any raid guild brings only mages and rogues, because “they do the highest damage”. I think we do well enough to make us viable, but i obviously wouldn’t discount a buff.

I had a look at some logs from another moonkin in a guild that is world #350ish at the moment. Said moonkin wasn’t on top of the meters, but he was comfortable with the core of the DPS group. The DPS differences isn’t massive at this area, and im perfectly fine if that is the result we end up with.

It really boils down to where our tolerance is. I think that too many people look at top damage lists, or even get a biased oppinion when viewing other peoples logs, and decide that “if they cant do that, then their class suck”. I think my tolerance level is fairly large. If i did 9k DPS in your raid group, and there were 5 people over me, i wouldn’t really mind – id still be comparable to the majority of the raid group.

We had 14 dps break 7k. You had 7.

It is about killing bosses, and Escapism hasn’t. You’re ranked 1500+ in the world for all tiers where we are top 200. I’m not trying to brag, but you aren’t seeing the quality players and raid that those in my position are. You killed Algalon in mostly ICC and ToGC gear. That’s like a Sunwell guild going back and killing Kaelthas. Not a big achievement.

You may ask why I’m bashing your guild and you. I’m not. I think you’re a well played moonkin. The problem I have is that you are in a high profile position between a successful blog and your position on mmo, and you constatnly claim moonkin are fine. Blizzard only fixes things once there is enough public outcry. Your don’t worry attitude is hurting those of us experiencing cutting edge content, and sadly your guild isn’t there, you can’t understand our dps issues with the class.

Here’s your WOL for Deathwhisper this week: http://worldoflogs.com/reports/aw3pywupwlpn6pbe/sum/damageDone/?s=1505&e=1716

I really dont mean to sound rude, but you seem to be very quick to point fingers without checking if it might be the same in your own guild.

You have just four people pulling more than 9k DPS. Your mages or hunters didn’t pull 9k either. Your mages do between 6-7,5k DPS. So, by your own argument, does that mean that your guild suck as well?

Ofcourse not! There are so many factors to take into account. Simply because a class is capable of reaching a theoretical max, it doesn’t mean it will happen.

The argument is completely invalid for reasons i have mentioned a gazillion times before: Fight time, tactics, composition, raid assignments etc.

You shouldn’t beat yourself, your guild, or my guild up over this. Whats important is if A) You clear encounters, and B) How people compare against each other.