Comments on: Gearing up http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2010/02/23/gearing-up/ A blog by a man who likes to play video games Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:08:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.2 By: Qieth http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2010/02/23/gearing-up/#comment-577 Qieth Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:40:12 +0000 http://qieths-quips.com/?p=489#comment-577 But if you want to be on par with "the rest of us" (which you are in some fights), you cannot ignore the advice you ar given :) But if you want to be on par with “the rest of us” (which you are in some fights), you cannot ignore the advice you ar given :)

]]> By: Shulfanix http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2010/02/23/gearing-up/#comment-576 Shulfanix Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:30:20 +0000 http://qieths-quips.com/?p=489#comment-576 Thank you for your replies. I tried to follow nomilk tips, going for crit is more similar to my playstyle,regardless of rawr suggestions that advices reckless in yellow sockets already at my crit rating, so i made some changes, wearing boots of unrelenting storm from beasts hc. Dps still remains the same. I forgot to mention that in my guild clear day: wednesday, our server is affected by brutal lag, so the charts are a bit low for everyone. I will try to see if something goes better on other days. I'm trying to disable grid, recount, leaving just ora2, boss mod and omen running. My pc should be fine, a quad core 9400 2,66 giga htz, with a geforce 9600 gt, not playing with max res neither max details during raids. Maybe my line is a bit lame, living in a little town between the mountains, and of course my activity and rotations could be improved, but i'm working on it. What just makes me angry is that our shaman elemental, whatever fight we are doing is always on top of me, same gear like mine, all socketed reckless and runed. I forgot to say that we have all casters buffs in raid since our gm is a mage(he likes to have a druid squad for innervate :D), including a demo lock. Anyway, watching at your numbers all i can say is congratulations, hope to be on pair with you one day :). Thank you for your replies. I tried to follow nomilk tips, going for crit is more similar to my playstyle,regardless of rawr suggestions that advices reckless in yellow sockets already at my crit rating, so i made some changes, wearing boots of unrelenting storm from beasts hc. Dps still remains the same. I forgot to mention that in my guild clear day: wednesday, our server is affected by brutal lag, so the charts are a bit low for everyone. I will try to see if something goes better on other days. I’m trying to disable grid, recount, leaving just ora2, boss mod and omen running. My pc should be fine, a quad core 9400 2,66 giga htz, with a geforce 9600 gt, not playing with max res neither max details during raids. Maybe my line is a bit lame, living in a little town between the mountains, and of course my activity and rotations could be improved, but i’m working on it.
What just makes me angry is that our shaman elemental, whatever fight we are doing is always on top of me, same gear like mine, all socketed reckless and runed.
I forgot to say that we have all casters buffs in raid since our gm is a mage(he likes to have a druid squad for innervate :D ), including a demo lock.
Anyway, watching at your numbers all i can say is congratulations, hope to be on pair with you one day :) .

]]> By: Qieth http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2010/02/23/gearing-up/#comment-574 Qieth Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:28:18 +0000 http://qieths-quips.com/?p=489#comment-574 10k DPS is absolutely fine :) 10k DPS is absolutely fine :)

]]> By: nomilk http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2010/02/23/gearing-up/#comment-573 nomilk Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:41:11 +0000 http://qieths-quips.com/?p=489#comment-573 i agree that comparing on fights such as festergut isnt reliable as there are too many variables in the fight, but my dps on LD averages around 9.5-10k sadly i dont have a wol report for those as i recently changed guild as my old 1 fell apart. all i can say is if you are doing your rotation correctly and still come up with low dps then it is probably your raid setup or just unlucky with eclipse rolling i agree that comparing on fights such as festergut isnt reliable as there are too many variables in the fight, but my dps on LD averages around 9.5-10k sadly i dont have a wol report for those as i recently changed guild as my old 1 fell apart. all i can say is if you are doing your rotation correctly and still come up with low dps then it is probably your raid setup or just unlucky with eclipse rolling

]]> By: Qieth http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2010/02/23/gearing-up/#comment-572 Qieth Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:10:06 +0000 http://qieths-quips.com/?p=489#comment-572 Be careful with simply comparing one log to each other. There are way too many factors to make it a simply call like that. Your damage on Festergut could be better (Shulfanix), but that is such a random fight, with bile being thrown around, movement due to spores and so on. As an example, we were doing Festergut heroic yesterday. One a ~10% wipe, I was doing 9,5k DPS (if memory serves me well) but on our kill, i was at a measly 7k DPS. Terrible, but there are too many factors to make it a good fight to compare anything on. Your Rotface damage, for example, is spot on with the rest of the DPS. But ofcourse, there is an element of randomnes there as well, since you could have gotten zero infections. Try and get some logs from a fight that looks more like a nuke fight. There are none of those, but some are close; Lady Deathwhisper (if you handle the adds quickly), Saurfang and such are pretty decent to look at. Be careful with simply comparing one log to each other. There are way too many factors to make it a simply call like that.

Your damage on Festergut could be better (Shulfanix), but that is such a random fight, with bile being thrown around, movement due to spores and so on. As an example, we were doing Festergut heroic yesterday. One a ~10% wipe, I was doing 9,5k DPS (if memory serves me well) but on our kill, i was at a measly 7k DPS. Terrible, but there are too many factors to make it a good fight to compare anything on.

Your Rotface damage, for example, is spot on with the rest of the DPS. But ofcourse, there is an element of randomnes there as well, since you could have gotten zero infections.

Try and get some logs from a fight that looks more like a nuke fight. There are none of those, but some are close; Lady Deathwhisper (if you handle the adds quickly), Saurfang and such are pretty decent to look at.

]]> By: nomilk http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2010/02/23/gearing-up/#comment-571 nomilk Mon, 08 Mar 2010 03:57:13 +0000 http://qieths-quips.com/?p=489#comment-571 hers my wol report for festergut maybe it might help http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/5dyf0p4mfhpdfcmv/sum/damageDone/?s=11495&e=11787#Nomilk hers my wol report for festergut maybe it might help
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/5dyf0p4mfhpdfcmv/sum/damageDone/?s=11495&e=11787#Nomilk

]]> By: nomilk http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2010/02/23/gearing-up/#comment-570 nomilk Mon, 08 Mar 2010 03:54:40 +0000 http://qieths-quips.com/?p=489#comment-570 i know u were asking qieth but i had a look at the report and im not sure why maybe its your raid setup but your base sp is higher then mine but my spells do more dmg wrath crits for about 14k and starfire 21-22k. also in my opinion drop some haste and reach the crit cap i know u were asking qieth but i had a look at the report and im not sure why maybe its your raid setup but your base sp is higher then mine but my spells do more dmg wrath crits for about 14k and starfire 21-22k. also in my opinion drop some haste and reach the crit cap

]]> By: Shulfanix http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2010/02/23/gearing-up/#comment-567 Shulfanix Thu, 04 Mar 2010 06:28:15 +0000 http://qieths-quips.com/?p=489#comment-567 Checking out logs i see moonkin with almost same gear like mine pushing around 1k and more dps. I'm following literally what's written around in elitistjerks, rawr and mmo, trying to optimize my rotation, but still i can't be satisfied about my numbers:could you give a look at my char? http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Runetotem&cn=Shulfanix and here's my last log: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/twdoorhbd26podc6/details/163/ I have to add that my latency never drops down 120 during raids. I know i have to improve my activity, and in fight where i can't use nibelung i just go with hammer of purified flame and scourgelord baton reaching about 32% crit ub. Thanks in advance and gratz for your blog really really interesting and full of simple and complete answers. Checking out logs i see moonkin with almost same gear like mine pushing around 1k and more dps.
I’m following literally what’s written around in elitistjerks, rawr and mmo, trying to optimize my rotation, but still i can’t be satisfied about my numbers:could you give a look at my char?
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Runetotem&cn=Shulfanix
and here’s my last log:
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/twdoorhbd26podc6/details/163/
I have to add that my latency never drops down 120 during raids.
I know i have to improve my activity, and in fight where i can’t use nibelung i just go with hammer of purified flame and scourgelord baton reaching about 32% crit ub.
Thanks in advance and gratz for your blog really really interesting and full of simple and complete answers.

]]> By: Duskstorm http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2010/02/23/gearing-up/#comment-548 Duskstorm Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:57:42 +0000 http://qieths-quips.com/?p=489#comment-548 Regarding spirit, I have a very fun time in my 10 man raids as we run with two healers. I'm the guy that they call on to off heal when the two healers need just a little help, and when you're out of moonkin form healing, that spirit becomes pretty valuable from a mana management perspective. I personally love the job, because I get to feel like I'm actually playing my druid to his strengths as much as possible. This is probably sounding crazy, but while I dislike the idea of being a resto druid, and healing is really kind of boring, shifting out of moonkin form to off heal is pretty fun for me. If I have a choice to further exceed the soft haste cap or grab spirit I'll go with spirit every time. I just can't stand wraths getting faster and faster, my knuckles hate me every time. Regarding spirit, I have a very fun time in my 10 man raids as we run with two healers. I’m the guy that they call on to off heal when the two healers need just a little help, and when you’re out of moonkin form healing, that spirit becomes pretty valuable from a mana management perspective.

I personally love the job, because I get to feel like I’m actually playing my druid to his strengths as much as possible.

This is probably sounding crazy, but while I dislike the idea of being a resto druid, and healing is really kind of boring, shifting out of moonkin form to off heal is pretty fun for me.

If I have a choice to further exceed the soft haste cap or grab spirit I’ll go with spirit every time. I just can’t stand wraths getting faster and faster, my knuckles hate me every time.

]]> By: Qieth http://qieths-quips.com/blog/2010/02/23/gearing-up/#comment-547 Qieth Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:07:57 +0000 http://qieths-quips.com/?p=489#comment-547 I have the Lady's Bristle Bracers, because i need them for hit. They should be rather easy to get, considering that any decent 25 man guild can get her down with relative ease. Spirit is not "that bad". Point for point, spirit might suck balls, but most ICC items are running some 100ish spirit - which translates into 33 spell power. Its important to remember that while spirit is worth very little, we get a lot of it when we do, which makes it an acceptable choice. If you do the calculations, the leather boots with spirit from ICC25 (the name eludes me at the moment) aren't really that bad. They are still an upgrade, and the only people who would take them otherwise are resto druids. I have the Lady’s Bristle Bracers, because i need them for hit. They should be rather easy to get, considering that any decent 25 man guild can get her down with relative ease.

Spirit is not “that bad”. Point for point, spirit might suck balls, but most ICC items are running some 100ish spirit – which translates into 33 spell power. Its important to remember that while spirit is worth very little, we get a lot of it when we do, which makes it an acceptable choice. If you do the calculations, the leather boots with spirit from ICC25 (the name eludes me at the moment) aren’t really that bad. They are still an upgrade, and the only people who would take them otherwise are resto druids.

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